Audi 100 Coupe S - Page 4

ZermattGT · 17-10-11, 10:19 AM

Wow.
Welcome to the forum Theo.
While I like vintage car modifications to be less radical, your 100 S1 is a work of art.
Going to your link to look at the other restoration project now.

How was the S1 on the "Ring"?

Tonks4x4 · 17-10-11, 11:39 AM

Hello Theo, I have admired your car for quite some years...

I think now I have the vehicle in my possession I will start by making it road legal and restore it as original as possible. I can always make the further modifications further down the line

Here is a few pics of the donor...

At the moment it would have better uses with flour... Ie it would make a perfect sieve

I have attached a battery and put the fuel pipe into a jerry can and it runs

Coxy · 17-10-11, 12:12 PM

Nice to finally see it!!

Also good that the chaps return trip meant at last I finally have a space extra in the unit, well, till Friday when my mate drops off his campervan!!

Coxy · 17-10-11, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audicoupes1

Hello,
I think there is no any YES or NO choice, in such question... Personaly speaking I find both ANSWERS interesting ... I have followed both SOLUTIONS to these BABES and I have to admit that each solution has its advantages and disadvantages...
The original restoration is quite good experience and a procedure that when you will have come to the end of it, you will drive a very -head turner- nice historical Audi car with a good reliability (depends on the the restoration standards...). This is also recommended to someone who does't like the stress and the problems should overcome to any modification... Just count the money in your pocket (To find some of the Coupe S new spare parts are like to have won the JACK pot!), follow all the restoration procedure -BY THE BOOK- and... voila!
On the other hand, the custom made re-building has more fun, has more problems to overcome (depends how radical your Modification will be) and finaly the result may not be the car you had in mind to CREATE... Such long or short JOURNEY to custom made -unique- modificated or MUTTANT project cars, many times hides many obstacles that you cannot calculated from the beginning...
But, I need to know firstly what you have on mind, in case of the modificated VERSION... To build an everyday drive -street legal- with 100% reliability, to build a show car -no matter street legal or outlaw project- or to build a race car?

My experience on such rstorations or custom made re-buiidings on this specific car ONLY is quite ...wide, and I can help you find the proper and the more matching - to your lifestyle- solution you will choose...

My orange Coupe S1 quattro is my everyday drive, is fully street legal -according to the Greek transporation dept. rules- and I drove speedy (254 top speed on the GPS device is saved, 5.0 sec 0-100km (but it was loaded with gasoline and all of our luggages) last week 4.000km from Thessaloniki, Greece to Nuerburgring, Germany and back home (in a week) without any problem... Inside "Nordschleife" under wet conditions was quite accurate and behaved almost as a race car...

My red 71er Coupe S is under original specs restoration procedure...

More photos or videos you can find on the www.audivirus.blogspot.com

Regards from cloudy Macedonia, Greece,
Theo

I know I originally said 'restore to stock', but I do like this!
The stock arches look so much better than the flared ones on the other car.
Fancy starting up a thread with some more pics and the full spec of you car. It'll be right up our street here!

audicoupes1 · 17-10-11, 02:52 PM

Hello Audi People,
Thank you for your kind words and the warm WELCOMING...
Thank you also in advance for your understanding using my RUSTY english... I wish I could speak and type better, but...

Your white beauty seems to be a '72 or '73 model. By the way, the plastic front grill I have seen on the photos, laying on the front driver's seat IS NOT suitable for your car. It's suitable for '74-'76 models.

Your choice to give this car its lost original look and specs maybe is the best for these old babe...

But, let me to return to your initial question... In case you would changed your mind,
I have to say that these early models' engine room is not ENOUGH for the I5 engines and especially for I5 turbo engines...
I have exhausted all the potentials and all of my ...clever ideas to save space and to fit properly the ADU engine+CRB gearbox complex to my 75er (it has a little bit more roomy engine bay than the '71-'73 models). I was also lucky of using the big US body structure and BUMPERS... In that way, I hided inside the front bumper the custom made intercooler (almost 20% bigger in volume and 5% bigger in front surface from the stock RS2 intercooler...)

If you have no restrictions and legal limitations of swaping engine in a such model, my idea is that a V6 engine with all the goodies around it will be a PERFECT match for this car. Don't push your luck to go to an s4 or rs4 B5 engine or engine+gearbox complex swap, cause you will bot find easily enough room and enough air inlet for the twin or the single needed intercooler, in case you would love to keep the very original outer LOOK of your baby's front end...

My friend, Dirk Boersch from Germany (I'm in love with his car! and I'm not the only one! http://www.boersch-net.de/ )

has made HIS OWN CAR (the same model as yours!) by installing a 4cylinder 16v KR engine and a turbo, reaching easily the 300+PS power... He uses a front wheel drive gearbox from a passat, as far as I remember for not having problem with the clutch pedal and the tachometer wire. But it is quite SHORT gearbox for a such powerfull engine and makes the accelaration of that BROWN SUGAR baby a TRUE EXPERIENCE of rocket science!!!!!!!! But his scenario was also to keep it as clean and original as posible all the outer front end features... This made his job harder cause the original front end doen't give the needed FRESH AIR VOLUME to cool down the water/oil coolers and the intercooler... The result is that it runs in high engine temperatures... And this is not GOOD... But, I pretty sure with some HIDDEN mods will improve the air flow to the coolers and the TURBINE+downpipe and will run in lower temperatures...

I had seen many years ago a french guy who claimed that he had started to build a v6

super power engine transplant to his Blueish 74er Coupe S but, no news from him since then... I didn't get him seriously, just because he wanted to install this engine in his original gearbox (cause of the inboard brakes you OPEN another chapter of the modification to alter your front suspension to the one of the '75-'76 ('77 for US market only) models.
This solution cannot work properly for more than a ...mile...
But, never heard something from him AGAIN... The photos just showed to us maybe his ...dream but it was just an engine hunged up in the middle of NOWHERE inside his Coupe S engine bay... That's all.

I have seen 2-3 other Coupe S 75-76 models with I5 engines normaly aspirated

and last year was a 75er or a 76er Coupe S from HAMBURG area in Germany in Which its owner had made a transplant of an

7A engine (2,3 I5 20v engine 170ps). But, never heard anything else for it, again...

Many, many, many Coupe S had the 924 XK (?)

engine or the typ43 WA engine under their hoods... It was a piece of cake to install these engines and the more important was and still is that such a swap doesn't require any gearbox swap... And at the same time you had a ... "porsche" engine in you tiger... hahahahahahaha

I will be here to tell everything I know (the hard way...) about your car! You have a lot of work in front of you and you will need a lot of PRAYERS of your co-forumists, except money and precious time...) to accomplish this task you have set. I'm with you!

Friendly regards,

Theo

PS1> The orange mutant quattro (I called HER as "QUATTRINA" trying to make a logo play as the hurricane "KATRINA"...) was unexpected so f.... good all the way to the Green Hell, inside the RING and all the way back home that I cannot express myself properly... This last UPGRADE lasted 2 years. During this period the car had run almost 5500 km just testing and fixing and again and again fixing and again testing and replacing the last mod cause ... and again testing and... so on... But I never had all this time a long road trip and I was NOT so sure about the relianility of this complete car... I was almost always ready to face that something will go wrong and my dream road trip will stop SOON...>>>> But, thank to the bullet proof orange baby.... I lived my dream, not only inside the ring but also in the German autobahnen... and it's not only the speed and the accelaration... IT'S THE MELODY of the ADU through the inox FOX 70mm exhaust system which makes also the difference...
PS2> The photos of the Audi "928" which were uploaded in this threat are from my personal archive... BIG story...

audicoupes1 · 17-10-11, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coxy

I know I originally said 'restore to stock', but I do like this!
The stock arches look so much better than the flared ones on the other car.
Fancy starting up a thread with some more pics and the full spec of you car. It'll be right up our street here!

Thank you for your feedback. All the people says almost the same to me... that the flared fenders weren't so pretty... And propably you have right...

It's the same car... But, I get rid off the flared fenders not only to change the look of the car to a more... original look, but also I wanted to improve the feeling of the steering wheel on everyday drives... Yes, the wider wheels are PERFECT in circuits and racing style driving... But, they give very poor feedback of stability of the steering in normal city circle driving... They ruin the suspension offset and the steering wheel gets so... sensitive that sometimes I hated to drive it...
So, after many trials I freezed my ... improvements at 9x17 rims all around (et55 in front and et47 ub rear axle) with 255/40/17 tyres (ON PURPOSE wider and bigger in diameter than the stock Rs2 tyres -245/40/17 to eliminate the crazy spinning during flat out accelaration with 3rd gear!)

So, I turned to the original stock rear axle arches, but the AUDIVIRUS couldn't leave me in peace... So, I made the front fenders' arches just 2cm wider that the very true stock arches... Otherwise I had to relocate the Bilstein PSS suspension to fit these wide wheels on the front axle and this would be a very bad solution for the suspension offset...

You can see all to my blogspot... I have to upload more stuff, soon!

Theo

Tonks4x4 · 17-10-11, 06:02 PM

Thanks again for all the links and info....

I will make a start on restoration first, get it road legal and then decide on further enhancements next year.....

The project begins........

here

http://www.classic-audi.co.uk/forum/...ad.php?t=19773

David Small · 17-10-11, 06:18 PM

Having seen the car now , I think restoration with some tweeks would be good ! Nothing too radical appearance wise would be the order of the day me thinks - a bit like they do with NSU TT's on the continent

audi.e2.quattro · 17-10-11, 06:20 PM

u got a new toy brian

Couperman · 17-10-11, 06:35 PM

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17-10-11, 10:19 AM	#31
ZermattGT Quad Lamp Commando Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Massachusetts, U.S.A. Posts: 4,299	Wow. Welcome to the forum Theo. While I like vintage car modifications to be less radical, your 100 S1 is a work of art. Going to your link to look at the other restoration project now. How was the S1 on the "Ring"? __________________ 1983 US Model Zermatt Silver Coupe GT

17-10-11, 11:39 AM	#32
Tonks4x4 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huthwaite, Nottinghamshire Posts: 2,607	Hello Theo, I have admired your car for quite some years... I think now I have the vehicle in my possession I will start by making it road legal and restore it as original as possible. I can always make the further modifications further down the line Here is a few pics of the donor... At the moment it would have better uses with flour... Ie it would make a perfect sieve I have attached a battery and put the fuel pipe into a jerry can and it runs __________________ http://www.tonks4x4.com

17-10-11, 06:18 PM	#38
David Small David Small - Mr 80k Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 7,210	Having seen the car now , I think restoration with some tweeks would be good ! Nothing too radical appearance wise would be the order of the day me thinks - a bit like they do with NSU TT's on the continent __________________ David Small - Member 283 - 1994 Audi C4 A6 2.0 - Tornado Red 1971 NSU 1200C Automatik - Iberian Red 1995 Audi B4 80 2.6SE Automatic - Laser Red

17-10-11, 06:35 PM	#40
Couperman Smut Meister Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newark-on-Trent Posts: 1,418	Personally I like the look of these [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ Rod Inwood - Member 1467 1994 C4 4a 100 sport 2.6 V6, Ruby Red Pearl, 98,000 miles Previously owned :- 1988 B3 Coupe 2.3E 5 Cyl, Panther Black Metallic 1990 C4 4a 100 Saloon 2.0 ltr, Tornado Red 1994 B4 Coupe 2.6E V6, Lime Pastel 'Gelbus', 231,000 miles (Sadly written off 04/07/2015) 1994 B4 Avant 2.6E V6, Indigo Blue, 167,000 miles.

17-10-11, 12:12 PM	#33
Coxy 4 Ring Mafia Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: on the side of a hill in Shropshire! Posts: 28,215	Nice to finally see it!! Also good that the chaps return trip meant at last I finally have a space extra in the unit, well, till Friday when my mate drops off his campervan!!

17-10-11, 02:52 PM	#35
audicoupes1 Grown up member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25	Hello Audi People, Thank you for your kind words and the warm WELCOMING... Thank you also in advance for your understanding using my RUSTY english... I wish I could speak and type better, but... Your white beauty seems to be a '72 or '73 model. By the way, the plastic front grill I have seen on the photos, laying on the front driver's seat IS NOT suitable for your car. It's suitable for '74-'76 models. Your choice to give this car its lost original look and specs maybe is the best for these old babe... But, let me to return to your initial question... In case you would changed your mind, I have to say that these early models' engine room is not ENOUGH for the I5 engines and especially for I5 turbo engines... I have exhausted all the potentials and all of my ...clever ideas to save space and to fit properly the ADU engine+CRB gearbox complex to my 75er (it has a little bit more roomy engine bay than the '71-'73 models). I was also lucky of using the big US body structure and BUMPERS... In that way, I hided inside the front bumper the custom made intercooler (almost 20% bigger in volume and 5% bigger in front surface from the stock RS2 intercooler...) If you have no restrictions and legal limitations of swaping engine in a such model, my idea is that a V6 engine with all the goodies around it will be a PERFECT match for this car. Don't push your luck to go to an s4 or rs4 B5 engine or engine+gearbox complex swap, cause you will bot find easily enough room and enough air inlet for the twin or the single needed intercooler, in case you would love to keep the very original outer LOOK of your baby's front end... My friend, Dirk Boersch from Germany (I'm in love with his car! and I'm not the only one! http://www.boersch-net.de/ ) has made HIS OWN CAR (the same model as yours!) by installing a 4cylinder 16v KR engine and a turbo, reaching easily the 300+PS power... He uses a front wheel drive gearbox from a passat, as far as I remember for not having problem with the clutch pedal and the tachometer wire. But it is quite SHORT gearbox for a such powerfull engine and makes the accelaration of that BROWN SUGAR baby a TRUE EXPERIENCE of rocket science!!!!!!!! But his scenario was also to keep it as clean and original as posible all the outer front end features... This made his job harder cause the original front end doen't give the needed FRESH AIR VOLUME to cool down the water/oil coolers and the intercooler... The result is that it runs in high engine temperatures... And this is not GOOD... But, I pretty sure with some HIDDEN mods will improve the air flow to the coolers and the TURBINE+downpipe and will run in lower temperatures... I had seen many years ago a french guy who claimed that he had started to build a v6 super power engine transplant to his Blueish 74er Coupe S but, no news from him since then... I didn't get him seriously, just because he wanted to install this engine in his original gearbox (cause of the inboard brakes you OPEN another chapter of the modification to alter your front suspension to the one of the '75-'76 ('77 for US market only) models. This solution cannot work properly for more than a ...mile... But, never heard something from him AGAIN... The photos just showed to us maybe his ...dream but it was just an engine hunged up in the middle of NOWHERE inside his Coupe S engine bay... That's all. I have seen 2-3 other Coupe S 75-76 models with I5 engines normaly aspirated and last year was a 75er or a 76er Coupe S from HAMBURG area in Germany in Which its owner had made a transplant of an 7A engine (2,3 I5 20v engine 170ps). But, never heard anything else for it, again... Many, many, many Coupe S had the 924 XK (?) engine or the typ43 WA engine under their hoods... It was a piece of cake to install these engines and the more important was and still is that such a swap doesn't require any gearbox swap... And at the same time you had a ... "porsche" engine in you tiger... hahahahahahaha I will be here to tell everything I know (the hard way...) about your car! You have a lot of work in front of you and you will need a lot of PRAYERS of your co-forumists, except money and precious time...) to accomplish this task you have set. I'm with you! Friendly regards, Theo PS1> The orange mutant quattro (I called HER as "QUATTRINA" trying to make a logo play as the hurricane "KATRINA"...) was unexpected so f.... good all the way to the Green Hell, inside the RING and all the way back home that I cannot express myself properly... This last UPGRADE lasted 2 years. During this period the car had run almost 5500 km just testing and fixing and again and again fixing and again testing and replacing the last mod cause ... and again testing and... so on... But I never had all this time a long road trip and I was NOT so sure about the relianility of this complete car... I was almost always ready to face that something will go wrong and my dream road trip will stop SOON...>>>> But, thank to the bullet proof orange baby.... I lived my dream, not only inside the ring but also in the German autobahnen... and it's not only the speed and the accelaration... IT'S THE MELODY of the ADU through the inox FOX 70mm exhaust system which makes also the difference... PS2> The photos of the Audi "928" which were uploaded in this threat are from my personal archive... BIG story...

17-10-11, 06:02 PM	#37
Tonks4x4 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huthwaite, Nottinghamshire Posts: 2,607	Thanks again for all the links and info.... I will make a start on restoration first, get it road legal and then decide on further enhancements next year..... The project begins........ here http://www.classic-audi.co.uk/forum/...ad.php?t=19773

17-10-11, 06:20 PM	#39
audi.e2.quattro Grown up member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: huthwaite Posts: 120	u got a new toy brian