Which buggr-al road tax and fuel use estate car?

[msh]

Lorry consumes less fuel per something moved than your [or anyones] car and it is configured to be as much economical as possible, while you might be tempted to go for something that compromises economy and efficiency.

My A90q hasn't moved for one and half year [apart from the recent time when we pushed it out and turned it around and pushed back] because I don't really need it. I have bicycle, configured for fighting it's way through urban jungle, and I have work, which have bus regularly to nearby city, which can carry my bicycle in luggage compartment. Of course, people have different needs, but very often transportation is being used wastefully. In any case I swear to god that when my A90 will be back on road, I'll keep going to work [1,2 km x2] and to church [6 km x2] with my bicycle, and it won't collect dust in shed like it has happened previously in periods when I have usable car. Moving around city with bicycle like mine - which is something between long distance tourer and BMX is actually a lot of fun, and in shorter distances and around center, with careful ignorance of traffic lights [yes, in UK stood at red, but over here I'm not motivated to stand when nobody is moving on the other street - nobody here will catch cyclist] I'm as fast as any car, sometimes even faster.

I also previously wasn't hurry to install LPG kit on my A90, as it wouldn't give me any economy, just double the mileage driven.

[sinbin5t]

Originally Posted by The Real MSH!

I notice that horse and cart aren't listed. I small oversight?
It has the added advantage that if you don't like it, you can always have a bbq and eat it.

The horse that is.

Very good

[missfire]

Originally Posted by msh

Lorry consumes less fuel per something moved than your [or anyones] car and it is configured to be as much economical as possible, while you might be tempted to go for something that compromises economy and efficiency.

My A90q hasn't moved for one and half year [apart from the recent time when we pushed it out and turned it around and pushed back] because I don't really need it. I have bicycle, configured for fighting it's way through urban jungle, and I have work, which have bus regularly to nearby city, which can carry my bicycle in luggage compartment. Of course, people have different needs, but very often transportation is being used wastefully. In any case I swear to god that when my A90 will be back on road, I'll keep going to work [1,2 km x2] and to church [6 km x2] with my bicycle, and it won't collect dust in shed like it has happened previously in periods when I have usable car. Moving around city with bicycle like mine - which is something between long distance tourer and BMX is actually a lot of fun, and in shorter distances and around center, with careful ignorance of traffic lights [yes, in UK stood at red, but over here I'm not motivated to stand when nobody is moving on the other street - nobody here will catch cyclist] I'm as fast as any car, sometimes even faster.

I also previously wasn't hurry to install LPG kit on my A90, as it wouldn't give me any economy, just double the mileage driven.

I'd go everywhere on a bike too if I could, but I can't. Bike was my main mode of transport for twenty years, I didn't sit a driving test until I was 27, faster than any car! But times change. I can't live here without a car unless I grow all of my own food. Which is not possible at 55 degrees north due to 'photoperiod'. Unless I can live on turnips and sea raddish. I could try but I reckon the smell coming out my ass would have me back in a car within a week.

[sinbin5t]

Originally Posted by missfire

I'd go everywhere on a bike too if I could, but I can't. Bike was my main mode of transport for twenty years, I didn't sit a driving test until I was 27, faster than any car! But times change. I can't live here without a car unless I grow all of my own food. Which is not possible at 55 degrees north due to 'photoperiod'. Unless I can live on turnips and sea raddish. I could try but I reckon the smell coming out my ass would have me back in a car within a week.

you are so funny

[missfire]

That's debatable..

Well that's that decision made then! Fookinell! Sums are as follows.

Old 'cheap' motoring since first brat was born five years ago. (bearing in mind that I can't know that something is wrong with a car, and not fix it.)

Total spend on cars, parts and labour (time not working), fuel, insurance and tax. £28,000+

And now left with three cars, none of which are 100% and worth a total of £4k between them, if I'm lucky. Learnt loads about audis though!

Brand new Kia Carens, no fekin hassle, no bleeding hands, and at the end of this next five year period, all in, I'll be £3k better off and left with a car worth a damned sight more than £4k!

I'll keep the old 100t and make it immaculate, but in general, trying to run a family around in old cars is insane. Loads of folk 60+ years old have told me this, mainly every time they see me suck under a car in the rain pulling bits off, but I didn't believe them.

60+s, you have my respect.

You don't get old by being stupid.

[Daveymaclad]

Originally Posted by missfire

That's debatable..

Well that's that decision made then! Fookinell! Sums are as follows.

Old 'cheap' motoring since first brat was born five years ago. (bearing in mind that I can't know that something is wrong with a car, and not fix it.)

Total spend on cars, parts and labour (time not working), fuel, insurance and tax. £28,000+

And now left with three cars, none of which are 100% and worth a total of £4k between them, if I'm lucky. Learnt loads about audis though!

Brand new Kia Carens, no fekin hassle, no bleeding hands, and at the end of this next five year period, all in, I'll be £3k better off and left with a car worth a damned sight more than £4k!

I'll keep the old 100t and make it immaculate, but in general, trying to run a family around in old cars is insane. Loads of folk 60+ years old have told me this, mainly every time they see me suck under a car in the rain pulling bits off, but I didn't believe them.

60+s, you have my respect.

You don't get old by being stupid.

Yowzers.

Across my 31 cars I'm £7k down on depreciation and probably no more than £10k down including repairs. All of the depreciation loss was on my one and only new car, but then I was getting £4k+ per year on mileage so it didn't really hurt that much. Last four cars I've actually sold for more than I paid for them which helps!

But as an accountant, a petrolhead and more than a little OCD when researching new cars for myself I would have been peaved if I wasn't able to eye the bargains!

[Flying Frank]

Originally Posted by missfire

That's debatable..


60+s, you have my respect.

You don't get old by being stupid.

A year to go to being 70...and I'll get no respect ....plenty of stupidity , but made it so far!!!

[missfire]

I'll be dead via heart attack long before I get to your age, if I don't take some stress and work out of my life.

Kia... (Maybe a skoda..) Sundays off (as I won't have wasted saturday fixing cars) and a daily dose of horse tranquillisers, might just do it.

[Flying Frank]

Two cars recently have impressed with their performance and frugality ( is that a proper word? ) First was the VRS Octavia which I had for 6 months . Daveymaclad got me onto them and whilst I didn't buy his, the one I settled on gave me great service and huge load lifting ability , not to mention performance as well. They are very "cheap" now second hand and there are some low milers around at silly prices...but second hand values also have their down side when you come to sell.

Other car which was superb was a Polo TDI Estate. 2001 vintage. If you can find a low mileage one of these , they have great performance and of course economy . Not so spacious as the Octavia, but having had 2 of them, I'd happily buy another if I could find one nearby. I guess if you are up in the wilds of Scotland, you may have similar issues to being able to access a variety of cars , maybe more so than here in the far flung South West ?

Only thing giving me stress nowadays are the cars , my own fault, but they say a little bit of stress in your life is good for you...and they also give me pleasure too now and again....bit like kids I suppose except you can't sell the kids on eBay!!!

Good luck in your hunt and I'll be interested to see what you end up.....a 1992 Audi Avant quattro perhaps ??.... cheers, Frank

[SE_30]

Hyundais.... stay well clear. We have them as company cars here in Korea. Horrible bits of tin.

You may have read and seen in the news just yesterday about the 100+ car pile up at Incheon near Seoul.

Have a look at this youtube clip, how many airbags do you see deployed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6aM68sTqwE