1986 Mazda 323 turbo 4x4 Ex-works Group A rally car - Page 24

Nigel Conniford · 02-06-10, 10:08 PM

yeah, she still on Dutch plates, got all the paper work ready to to send of and get it onto UK plates but need a new MOT to do it

Isimmo · 22-06-10, 01:23 PM

Been badgering them for all those NLA parts again have we Nige?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100622/...p-3fd0ae9.html

Nigel Conniford · 22-06-10, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isimmo

Been badgering them for all those NLA parts again have we Nige?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100622/...p-3fd0ae9.html

We it wasn't me, i couldn't even push mine that quick to squash a fly

Alpha · 09-07-10, 05:29 PM

Any relative??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1817580.htm

gabriel.oconnell · 10-07-10, 07:00 AM

hi nigel its a buy one get one free not bad for £7,700 2 rally cars and bits too

Nigel Conniford · 10-07-10, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha

Any relative??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1817580.htm

Not related to me, he's a nice lad from New Zealand

I know he has a few nice goodies in his spares, there both group N cars with a little bit of history, sadly Gabe, at the moment I couldn't even afford £ 7.70 let alone £7700 thats why mine has now come to a grinding halt, no spare cash for the for seeable future

Nige

4v6 · 10-07-10, 11:55 AM

Is it running yet Nige?

gabriel.oconnell · 10-07-10, 02:49 PM

sorry to hear this nigel if i won the big lottery tonight you have 3 by tuesday m8

Nigel Conniford · 10-07-10, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4v6

Is it running yet Nige?

Sort of

but only just

we now have a working ECU but the rest of the wireing needs finishing and then it needs a map setting up properly

No money, No car this side of Xmas

Nigel Conniford · 01-12-10, 06:03 PM

Well its been a slow job since the summer, My buddie Ian has at long last started to work on his kit car and has moved out of my garage and drive. So at long last the Mazie has got back in the warm and we can start to move forward again, very slowly but at least forward.

As you can see we have now ditched the dizzy and running the "Ford" style coil pack so the ignition is fully programable along with the fueling. Time now to find where all these wires go to

More wires !!

Well that was as far as we got

It turned out back in the summer before Chatsworth, the problem was the MAP that was sent over by Omex, not all of it came through, so no matter what we tried it was never going to run. We took the ECU back to them and it was fully checked over and the raw Map was loaded.

At last she fired up into life, very very lumpy tick over but it ran, until we tried to give it any revs, all it would do was stumble and give a tiny little pop back up through the intake

no matter what we tried no frigging revs

So back to Omex, had the map and ECU checked again, these were fine, checked and tested all the sensors and these all worked correctly. It turned out to be the injectors were incorrect. The ones I brought from the US were Low impedence and not high impedence so the ECU was not fireing them and seeing though I brought them 15 months earlier I could not get my money back

So we found another surplier in the States and £340 lighter the new ones arrived. We also have gone up on the flow rates from 330cc to 460cc and now up to 560cc.

Injectors now fitted and wireing started to get sorted

New MSA reg "Teflon" fuel lines with adjustable pressure regulator with a large Bosch 44 pump at the other end

Downpipe wrapped in heatwrap

As you can see, this is the next real big job, all the wireing needs sorting with a custom built loom

So today we plugged the lappie into the ECU and started to program the sensors, Air temp and Coolent sensors are done one at a time by putting in a cup of boiling water and plotting the readings on a graph in the software as the water cools down all the way to freezing, good day for it as its so freezing cold (the snow came in useful for cooling

)

Set up the trottle position sensor and Map sensor as this is need to tell the ECU about the amount of boost as with this system you get rid of the large MAF unit.

Turned the fuel pump on and set the pressure at 5 bar, had a good look around, no leaks, turned the ignition on and prayed

Two turns of the engine and she fired into life

3000 rpm until it warmed up and then she dropped down to a very lumpy 1400 rpm but it runs and we are so happy at last

Its still got a very long way to go before she runs right as this is only on the Raw fire up map and needs to be put on a rolling road to be set up correctly.

02-06-10, 10:08 PM	#231
Nigel Conniford Chief Sausage Meister!! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,614	yeah, she still on Dutch plates, got all the paper work ready to to send of and get it onto UK plates but need a new MOT to do it __________________ Horsepower is the force that determines at what speed you hit the wall, Torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.

22-06-10, 01:23 PM	#232
Isimmo Super Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sissix-by-the-sea Posts: 15,218	Been badgering them for all those NLA parts again have we Nige? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100622/...p-3fd0ae9.html __________________ 1985 WR quattro, 1985 20vT RallyRep, 1993 MTM ABY S2 Avant. 2010 S3 Sportback.

01-12-10, 06:03 PM	#240
Nigel Conniford Chief Sausage Meister!! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,614	Well its been a slow job since the summer, My buddie Ian has at long last started to work on his kit car and has moved out of my garage and drive. So at long last the Mazie has got back in the warm and we can start to move forward again, very slowly but at least forward. As you can see we have now ditched the dizzy and running the "Ford" style coil pack so the ignition is fully programable along with the fueling. Time now to find where all these wires go to More wires !! Well that was as far as we got It turned out back in the summer before Chatsworth, the problem was the MAP that was sent over by Omex, not all of it came through, so no matter what we tried it was never going to run. We took the ECU back to them and it was fully checked over and the raw Map was loaded. At last she fired up into life, very very lumpy tick over but it ran, until we tried to give it any revs, all it would do was stumble and give a tiny little pop back up through the intake no matter what we tried no frigging revs So back to Omex, had the map and ECU checked again, these were fine, checked and tested all the sensors and these all worked correctly. It turned out to be the injectors were incorrect. The ones I brought from the US were Low impedence and not high impedence so the ECU was not fireing them and seeing though I brought them 15 months earlier I could not get my money back So we found another surplier in the States and £340 lighter the new ones arrived. We also have gone up on the flow rates from 330cc to 460cc and now up to 560cc. Injectors now fitted and wireing started to get sorted New MSA reg "Teflon" fuel lines with adjustable pressure regulator with a large Bosch 44 pump at the other end Downpipe wrapped in heatwrap As you can see, this is the next real big job, all the wireing needs sorting with a custom built loom So today we plugged the lappie into the ECU and started to program the sensors, Air temp and Coolent sensors are done one at a time by putting in a cup of boiling water and plotting the readings on a graph in the software as the water cools down all the way to freezing, good day for it as its so freezing cold (the snow came in useful for cooling ) Set up the trottle position sensor and Map sensor as this is need to tell the ECU about the amount of boost as with this system you get rid of the large MAF unit. Turned the fuel pump on and set the pressure at 5 bar, had a good look around, no leaks, turned the ignition on and prayed Two turns of the engine and she fired into life 3000 rpm until it warmed up and then she dropped down to a very lumpy 1400 rpm but it runs and we are so happy at last Its still got a very long way to go before she runs right as this is only on the Raw fire up map and needs to be put on a rolling road to be set up correctly. __________________ Horsepower is the force that determines at what speed you hit the wall, Torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.

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09-07-10, 05:29 PM	#234
Alpha Grown up member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: St. Helens, Merseyside Posts: 412	Any relative?? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1817580.htm

10-07-10, 07:00 AM	#235
gabriel.oconnell 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: brynmawr Posts: 3,243	hi nigel its a buy one get one free not bad for £7,700 2 rally cars and bits too

10-07-10, 11:55 AM	#237
4v6 Ex Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,565	Is it running yet Nige?

10-07-10, 02:49 PM	#238
gabriel.oconnell 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: brynmawr Posts: 3,243	sorry to hear this nigel if i won the big lottery tonight you have 3 by tuesday m8