Eu referendum.

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[john johnson]

I'm an out kinda guy

[john johnson]

Don't forget the locust that have bee gorging themselves in Brussels and Strasbourg that will have the shitts too

[Ben]

I think the remainers are doing a double bluff. The tories would love to be able to strip us of our rights. Otherwise, I'm out.

Boris as PM would be fun times for all

[vorsprung durch technik]

Originally Posted by Ben

The tories would love to be able to strip us of our rights.

What rights!

The tories stripped us of these things back in 2010. Where you been! the voters stood by and gave them a second term.Talk about lemmings!!!!!!

This country has already raced to the bottom and is almost as bad as the worst country in the west the United states as far as employment law in concerned. You can now be hired and fired at will unlike in Europe,so voting out will make no difference! One other thing for all the remainers out there. The only reason why big business come here is not just because we are in Europe,it's because our employment laws are so biased towards the employer unlike in mainland Europe thats the reason why they are here.Inn Germany and France if a company wants to fire people they have to give a years notice.

Even under Labour in 2008 i was given a weeks notice when the credit crunch was in full swing.What rights,I'm rolling around the floor laughing here!

[Ben]

Originally Posted by vorsprung durch technik

What rights!

The tories stripped us of these things back in 2010. Where you been! the voters stood by and gave them a second term.Talk about lemmings!!!!!!.

European law overides english law. Without that, we are wide open to camoron and osbornes destructive ideas on modern slavery. We got the tories in 2010 due to blairs legacy and browns ineptitude.

Lemmings they may be, but they have the right to vote The Americans are proving that people are tired of career politicians and the Austrians are sick of wimpy leaders. Even in the UK, the rise of farage is at least evidence we want change from the usual identikit, greed led parties.

Originally Posted by vorsprung durch technik

Ben,Give me some of this bullshit the brexit camp have been espousing?????

This:

Originally Posted by terrywindy1

So exaggerated claims from exit campaign about the £350 million,wasn't misleading?

[vorsprung durch technik]

Originally Posted by Ben

European law overides english law. Without that, we are wide open to camoron and osbornes destructive ideas on modern slavery. We got the tories in 2010 due to blairs legacy and browns ineptitude.

Lemmings they may be, but they have the right to vote The Americans are proving that people are tired of career politicians and the Austrians are sick of wimpy leaders. Even in the UK, the rise of farage is at least evidence we want change from the usual identikit, greed led parties.



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Companies and firms have been firing people at will for a good few years already Ben.So where is your European white knight coming to the rescue to those who get fired for no reason but last in first out????? It's a falacy! Pure nonsense,i know it's happened to me! One weeks notice. We are giving what is it,? 20 billion a year to Europe? and get rebated what is it 9billion of which they tell us how we spend it. If you are personally worried about politicians here,and feel only Europe can save us, then make sure your voice is herd at all general elections.We don't need Europe to tell us how to vote here,it's up to us to make our voices heard when elections are due.Are you saying the British people aren't capable of sticking up for themselves?

[Ben]

Originally Posted by vorsprung durch technik

Companies and firms have been firing people at will for a good few years already Ben.So where is your European white knight coming to the rescue to those who get fired for no reason but last in first out????? It's a falacy! Pure nonsense,i know it's happened to me! One weeks notice. We are giving what is it,? 20 billion a year to Europe? and get rebated what is it 9billion of which they tell us how we spend it. If you are personally worried about politicians here,and feel only Europe can save us, then make sure your voice is herd at all general elections.We don't need Europe to tell us how to vote here,it's up to us to make our voices heard when elections are due.Are you saying the British people aren't capable of sticking up for themselves?

I think you are assuming I am pro europe, I'm not. Nor am I affiliated with, or have any faith in any current political party. I'm waiting for someone to step up who is patriotic for my country and cares for all of it's peoples as if it's one big happy family.

Firing people at will is something you are going to have to provide evidence for.

[vorsprung durch technik]

Originally Posted by Ben

We got the tories in 2010 due to blairs legacy and browns ineptitude.

Not quite true Ben! Yes we got the tories as a result in Blairs lying to the House. He made a promise to his 2 bit thick American President pretzel chocking friend,whom couldn't even name the capital of France when asked at the beginning of his presidency. Blairs war pissed many people of but it was the press who made sure Labour lost. Because of my fishing exploits, i happened to be at a pub book launch for a book called "Avon days and stour ways" down in ringwood hampshire in 2009.The MP who was, Martin Salter,fisheries minister, was at the launch. I knew who he was and went up to him for a chat. I asked why are Labour not even trying to win in 2010 by reminding the people about all the good they had done. Martins reply to me was " The press aren't interested in what we have to say.We book an event and they don't turn up" "The press have already decided".That was his answer.

No mate, we got the tories mostly because of their slick propaganda machine, the voters were hoodwinked into believing it was Labour who ruined the worlds economy not just this countries.

[vorsprung durch technik]

Originally Posted by Ben

European law overides english law. Without that, we are wide open to camoron and osbornes destructive ideas on modern slavery. We got the tories in 2010 due to blairs legacy and browns ineptitude.

So with your above statement how do you explain Sports Direct getting away with what is no more than a sweat house of Dickensian Victorian squaller?! How have European laws protected them?! The culture of fear the company has nurtured is beyond belief even though you say we are protected by EU law. Try telling that to the 35 ambulances sent there last year for all sorts,including strokes, the 5 miscarriages, and one woman gave birth in the work toilet.

How did European Law help the above people?. It's just a talking shop thats it! All this business about we are protected under EU law is nonsense or shall i say perhaps it works for the Elites or the very well educated amongst us but down at the bottom it most certainly doesn't!