Ex-Works Manta 400 rally car - Page 2

Booty · 09-08-09, 10:25 PM

One thing I would love to know is what was the rivalry really like back then in those epic battles between Brooks and McRae. Was it just hype or friendly rivalry? Do you know John with your experiences?

hansport · 09-08-09, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Booty

One thing I would love to know is what was the rivalry really like back then in those epic battles between Brooks and McRae. Was it just hype or friendly rivalry? Do you know John with your experiences?

I know both of these guys personally and have driven on events with them too. To me, they are both legends, and they have never uttered a bad word about each other, that I've witnessed.

However, you just know that they were fighting tooth and nail in those days and that made for spectacular rallying. Look at the variety of machinery in the British Open Championship - golden years, indeed!

What has happened to rallying, guys?

Booty · 09-08-09, 10:46 PM

As I probably expected it was more hype then real. Both old skool masters bought up with manners and values then! I'm sure they had their moments though, probably just after team orders were applied!! Rallying just isn't rallying nowadays and I have not really watched too closely this season as it's all too clinical, just like Formula One.
On a side note though one of the most touching experiences I have seen in recent years was last year at Chatsworth when all the old masters, and some newer fraces to, were assembled for ' that photo shoot'. Very very special that to see and I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the hospitality suite soon after and heard some of the tales recounted.
On another side note John did you get to go around with Llewellyn ( stupid question really ) when you filmed for 'Massive Speed' with Chris Barrie??

gabriel.oconnell · 10-08-09, 08:42 AM

yes guys the golden age of rallying. Many years ago in the 80s i would marshall on the welsh also service on the welsh for the likes of bob fowden, who had exworks rally cars eg tr7v8 rover sdi v8, ford escort cosworth but to name a few, One years i remember a young henri tovienon, on the welsh been held up by a slower competioner, and as thay got to stage end time control tovienon been the second car in ,behind the slower one jumped out od his car ran to the car in front to navigators side leaned nito the car said bad word in a foriegn lango, lean into the car grabed the interior mirror a said you .............................. do not need this and ripped it out of the car , he was not a happy man ,but a great rally driver

09-08-09, 10:25 PM	#11
Booty Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Deepest darkest Shropshire Posts: 5,077	One thing I would love to know is what was the rivalry really like back then in those epic battles between Brooks and McRae. Was it just hype or friendly rivalry? Do you know John with your experiences? __________________ 1987 Audi Coupe quattro - Clarion Tribute Car 2012 Audi A6 Allroad 2004 Mercedes SLK 350 2017 Mercedes GLA 220

09-08-09, 10:46 PM	#13
Booty Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Deepest darkest Shropshire Posts: 5,077	As I probably expected it was more hype then real. Both old skool masters bought up with manners and values then! I'm sure they had their moments though, probably just after team orders were applied!! Rallying just isn't rallying nowadays and I have not really watched too closely this season as it's all too clinical, just like Formula One. On a side note though one of the most touching experiences I have seen in recent years was last year at Chatsworth when all the old masters, and some newer fraces to, were assembled for ' that photo shoot'. Very very special that to see and I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the hospitality suite soon after and heard some of the tales recounted. On another side note John did you get to go around with Llewellyn ( stupid question really ) when you filmed for 'Massive Speed' with Chris Barrie?? __________________ 1987 Audi Coupe quattro - Clarion Tribute Car 2012 Audi A6 Allroad 2004 Mercedes SLK 350 2017 Mercedes GLA 220

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10-08-09, 08:42 AM	#14
gabriel.oconnell 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: brynmawr Posts: 3,243	yes guys the golden age of rallying. Many years ago in the 80s i would marshall on the welsh also service on the welsh for the likes of bob fowden, who had exworks rally cars eg tr7v8 rover sdi v8, ford escort cosworth but to name a few, One years i remember a young henri tovienon, on the welsh been held up by a slower competioner, and as thay got to stage end time control tovienon been the second car in ,behind the slower one jumped out od his car ran to the car in front to navigators side leaned nito the car said bad word in a foriegn lango, lean into the car grabed the interior mirror a said you .............................. do not need this and ripped it out of the car , he was not a happy man ,but a great rally driver