Anyone swapped an 8v with a 9a 16v

[Val]

You expect too much from dinosaur fuel injection. At least try 16v abf from mk3.

[msh]

You mean injection from the same engine, which was compared against KR by GintsK with words "that drowsy engine..." ? People here are complaining about engine characterics, not lack of specialists for engine management - try to explain why there aren't such words for 2v engines

Originally Posted by Flying Frank

Yup, I also agree that the 16v engine is overrated....had a 16v B3 saloon and comparing it to my B3 2.3 coupe is like comparing white with black. The 2.3 has more torque, possibly uses about the same amount of fuel, but has that extra pot to give it far more aural appeal !!! No contest in my book.

Actually slightly less. 2.3 also has just 6 newtons of torque more, but way more usable torque curve - because 2v engines are tuned for low rev torque, and because of power stroke overlap.

[Flying Frank]

Originally Posted by msh

You mean injection from the same engine, which was compared against KR by GintsK with words "that drowsy engine..." ? People here are complaining about engine characterics, not lack of specialists for engine management - try to explain why there aren't such words for 2v engines



Actually slightly less. 2.3 also has just 6 newtons of torque more, but way more usable torque curve - because 2v engines are tuned for low rev torque, and because of power stroke overlap.

If you ever think of moving to England, perhaps you'd consider being my next door neighbour

[Addicted]

http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?103013-8v-v-16v

Makes interesting reading... there's loads of this comparison on club GTI (for obvious reasons). Somewhere in there there's a graph that overlays the 8v torque curve over the 16v to show that it reality the 8v at no point has more torque.

Remember that here on this forum anyone without 5 cylinders is considered 'wierd' and not to be trusted

Personally, if you currently have a 1.8v I'd replace it with a 2 litre.. but if you do want 16v then I'd highly recommend the ABF 16v from the mk3 GTI. They can be picked up cheap with thier management(the one in my unit cost me £100 with management and loom, but budget £300), they do away with the mech injection so are easier to fit that say a 9A or ACE. The throttle body ends up at the front of the bay, so inlet plumbing is neat too.

I'll try and find some photos of the one I did 10 years ago. Seem to remember we used an ACE exhaust manifold, coolant flange, top hose and oil pickup.. most other stuff swapped across from the 8v..

I'll now don my armour in readyness of the attacks from the 5 cylinder, pitchfork wielding mob

[Val]

Originally Posted by Addicted

Remember that here on this forum anyone without 5 valves per cylinder or jetronic is considered 'wierd' and not to be trusted

Fixed your post.

[Addicted]

Originally Posted by Val

Fixed your post.

[msh]

Originally Posted by Addicted

http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?103013-8v-v-16v

Makes interesting reading... there's loads of this comparison on club GTI (for obvious reasons). Somewhere in there there's a graph that overlays the 8v torque curve over the 16v to show that it reality the 8v at no point has more torque.

No graphs at all, only "The db" states that he has one.

[jamiecoysh]

I was going to drop in the G60 if an engine change is on the cards

I think the 3A engine is a much better engine than the 6A engine and they both use the same metering head I think.

[Addicted]

Originally Posted by msh

No graphs at all, only "The db" states that he has one.

So in the last 6 hours you've managed to go through the entire Club GTI forum and come to that conclusion?

[msh]

Yeah, right.

Originally Posted by jamiecoysh

I think the 3A engine is a much better engine than the 6A engine and they both use the same metering head I think.

Not really - about the metering head. I don't know the internal differences, but I do know that as usual, the letters after part code are different - and that's logical, after all, we're talking about engines, one of which is able to burn approx 20% more fuel - and it does routinely, even cruising on road. Of course, 16v runs with various 8v stuff - metering head of my 3A ended up on 9A engine in corrado, where I had to manage to get that engine running, but how correctly, I can't tell.