wc engine

arthurious · 02-06-19, 03:10 PM

Can any one help when setting the timing up on the 5 cylinder where do you time the camshaft from do you put the lugs on the shaft at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock or at the bottom at 20 passed and 20 too
on the 5 cylinder diesel I had years ago there where at 10 too and 10 passed !!!!!!!

ON NUMBER ONE
or another way is the wood ruff key top or bottom
have got no timing marks on pully

larry49 · 02-06-19, 04:16 PM

I don't fully understand your post.....10 valve right, there in a indentation on the back of the camshaft pulley this has to line up with the top of the cam cover including the reinforcing strips (viewed from the spark plug side) at TDC (No 1).

TDC is shown in a little aperture on the bell housing, refer to a picture in a manual and it is set to number 1 cylinder at TDC.

You should have a timing mark on the flywheel pulley as well.

PS you can't see the indentation without removing the steel back cover from the timing belt cover.

arthurious · 02-06-19, 05:25 PM

thank you will have a look at all that tomorrow

larry49 · 02-06-19, 06:52 PM

Good luck...the Haynes manual has all the information on 5 pots if it is still available.

Also the rotor arm (cap removed) should point to no 1 cylinder when at TDC.....

4v6 · 03-06-19, 09:31 AM

If you look behind the camshaft pulley, on your right, there should be a cutout to allow you to view a dimple thats on the rear of the pulley itself.
Its only viewable for a few degrees and the engine has to be on compression stroke, so number one piston on its way up.
There is a line stamped into the front crankshaft pulley that will line up on an extented casting on the oil pump.
Only when the engine is at TDC wil both those marks be in line, unless of course some wally has put the belt on a few teeth out!

The cam pulley dimple has to be inline with the top of the cam cover flange/gasket although youll often find theres some leeway, but the main thing is to be able to see them both as its critical to cam position vs crank position.
Probably best to have someone wind the engine over slowly ( you can do it yourself on the flat with the gearbox in 5th on the flat) and pull the car towards you (ignition off!) until the cam dimple becomes visible, then go look for the crank marking, theyre usually not particularly prominent especially if its rusted.

arthurious · 03-06-19, 02:08 PM

Any pics of these please

jimh · 03-06-19, 06:19 PM

Yep.

http://www.urquattro.info/

Click "Static Timing" under Technical References.

02-06-19, 04:16 PM	#2
larry49 Grown up member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 44	I don't fully understand your post.....10 valve right, there in a indentation on the back of the camshaft pulley this has to line up with the top of the cam cover including the reinforcing strips (viewed from the spark plug side) at TDC (No 1). TDC is shown in a little aperture on the bell housing, refer to a picture in a manual and it is set to number 1 cylinder at TDC. You should have a timing mark on the flywheel pulley as well. PS you can't see the indentation without removing the steel back cover from the timing belt cover. Last edited by larry49; 02-06-19 at 04:22 PM.

02-06-19, 05:25 PM	#3
arthurious Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: cleveland Posts: 378	thank you will have a look at all that tomorrow

02-06-19, 06:52 PM	#4
larry49 Grown up member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 44	Good luck...the Haynes manual has all the information on 5 pots if it is still available. Also the rotor arm (cap removed) should point to no 1 cylinder when at TDC.....

03-06-19, 09:31 AM	#5
4v6 Ex Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,565	If you look behind the camshaft pulley, on your right, there should be a cutout to allow you to view a dimple thats on the rear of the pulley itself. Its only viewable for a few degrees and the engine has to be on compression stroke, so number one piston on its way up. There is a line stamped into the front crankshaft pulley that will line up on an extented casting on the oil pump. Only when the engine is at TDC wil both those marks be in line, unless of course some wally has put the belt on a few teeth out! The cam pulley dimple has to be inline with the top of the cam cover flange/gasket although youll often find theres some leeway, but the main thing is to be able to see them both as its critical to cam position vs crank position. Probably best to have someone wind the engine over slowly ( you can do it yourself on the flat with the gearbox in 5th on the flat) and pull the car towards you (ignition off!) until the cam dimple becomes visible, then go look for the crank marking, theyre usually not particularly prominent especially if its rusted.

03-06-19, 02:08 PM	#6
arthurious Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: cleveland Posts: 378	Any pics of these please

03-06-19, 06:19 PM	#7
jimh Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 122	Yep. http://www.urquattro.info/ Click "Static Timing" under Technical References.