The fun begins.....

type81 · 19-02-15, 12:09 AM

Ive driven both the typ81 and typ85 80 Sports, the typ85 was slightly quicker...had a little extra pickup through gears.

Both we're quick though....typ85 a bit more eager

But Also tappetty from its hydraulic head.

My choice would be to keep the original engine in, but its your choice..and cost consideration etc

Hanuman · 19-02-15, 07:51 AM

I'm actually of the opinion that you use which ever engine gets you up and running with the least distraction.
If it were a restoration for sentimental or investment reasons alone, then originality is important. But if you want use it, then that's the main focus.

With 2 engines available, it takes the pressure off, somewhat. If the spare engine will go in with the minimum of fuss, great.

It might be worth having a closer look at the existing engine.
Long term poor storage of aluminium heads- porosity can lead to coolant leaks. Both engines may be at risk.
Valve guides,and especially seals would probably benefit from attention.

The original engine is opened up. How are the bores?

ChrisG · 19-02-15, 04:05 PM

Indeed.
I've just remembered that I had a 'chattering' from the engine at about 72k miles, usually under load at relatively low revs.
Brian Ricketts ( BRMotorsport and one of the original founders of GTi Engineering) told me that it was probably worn valve guides ( at 72 k miles I thought WHAT?),
anyway a few months later the car spent a few days with him and was fixed , and he was correct!

With hindsight I should have had the whole head flowed etc, but having just had that done to 'her' B3 Sport along with a Shrick split profile cam and Sebring exhaust, funds were a bit exhausted !.....
So before it's back on the road guides and seals would be good to replace.

uxtcmenuts · 19-02-15, 07:04 PM

Looks good man but as to the motor I would have just the the original rebuilt because its getting harder to find these things with the original motor in them.

Flying Frank · 19-02-15, 08:24 PM

...because the chap doing the welding will not be available for at least the next 10 days. Very frustrating as the plan was to get the welding finished by the time the owner of the paint shop came back from his Winter break....now everything is going to be on hold.

Today saw another load of small annoying holes welded up . Plus some larger areas at the rear of the front wings where they bolt to the body. The N/S wing and body still need more attention as does the front apron . Rough guess is another two days work approx, maybe 3 days. £££££ !

Will plan to get the original engine running as that is still in situ. Then we'll see where we go from there....

You can all have some peace and quiet from me for a while but thanks for the advice , all much appreciated.

Hanuman · 19-02-15, 09:26 PM

We don't like peace and quiet. Its disquieting.

Are they allowing you to work on the car for other jobs? Like getting the fuel system sorted.

Flying Frank · 19-02-15, 09:34 PM

No, no time for the fuel system, too busy removing wings, parts from the engine bay to gain access, and interior trim in footwells to avoid conflagration. Then standing guard inside the car whilst welding taking place to extinguish any possible smouldering bits of stuck on carpet.

Plus have been doing wire brushing on front suspension which may be salvageable. Plenty of sweeping up too !

Car will be moved next week to adjoining workshop so may be able to get in under cover and do a bit more engine bay cleaning up, will have to see what the two bosses say.
Her indoors , and the owner of the workshop!

19-02-15, 07:51 AM	#2
Hanuman Trickster Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Heckling from the cheap seats, Phnom Penh, KoW Posts: 7,028	I'm actually of the opinion that you use which ever engine gets you up and running with the least distraction. If it were a restoration for sentimental or investment reasons alone, then originality is important. But if you want use it, then that's the main focus. With 2 engines available, it takes the pressure off, somewhat. If the spare engine will go in with the minimum of fuss, great. It might be worth having a closer look at the existing engine. Long term poor storage of aluminium heads- porosity can lead to coolant leaks. Both engines may be at risk. Valve guides,and especially seals would probably benefit from attention. The original engine is opened up. How are the bores? __________________ I wish they would keep the damned Chinese away now that I can go home, so that I can enjoy Fish amok and a draught Angkor

19-02-15, 08:24 PM	#5
Flying Frank 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kernow, Gods own county !! Posts: 2,388	Last picture for a few weeks..... ...because the chap doing the welding will not be available for at least the next 10 days. Very frustrating as the plan was to get the welding finished by the time the owner of the paint shop came back from his Winter break....now everything is going to be on hold. Today saw another load of small annoying holes welded up . Plus some larger areas at the rear of the front wings where they bolt to the body. The N/S wing and body still need more attention as does the front apron . Rough guess is another two days work approx, maybe 3 days. £££££ ! Will plan to get the original engine running as that is still in situ. Then we'll see where we go from there.... You can all have some peace and quiet from me for a while but thanks for the advice , all much appreciated.

19-02-15, 09:26 PM	#6
Hanuman Trickster Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Heckling from the cheap seats, Phnom Penh, KoW Posts: 7,028	We don't like peace and quiet. Its disquieting. Are they allowing you to work on the car for other jobs? Like getting the fuel system sorted. __________________ I wish they would keep the damned Chinese away now that I can go home, so that I can enjoy Fish amok and a draught Angkor

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19-02-15, 04:05 PM	#3
ChrisG Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bracknell, Berks. Posts: 1,465	Indeed. I've just remembered that I had a 'chattering' from the engine at about 72k miles, usually under load at relatively low revs. Brian Ricketts ( BRMotorsport and one of the original founders of GTi Engineering) told me that it was probably worn valve guides ( at 72 k miles I thought WHAT?), anyway a few months later the car spent a few days with him and was fixed , and he was correct! With hindsight I should have had the whole head flowed etc, but having just had that done to 'her' B3 Sport along with a Shrick split profile cam and Sebring exhaust, funds were a bit exhausted !..... So before it's back on the road guides and seals would be good to replace.

19-02-15, 07:04 PM	#4
uxtcmenuts Grown up member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Indianapolis In, USA Posts: 73	Looks good man but as to the motor I would have just the the original rebuilt because its getting harder to find these things with the original motor in them.

19-02-15, 09:34 PM	#7
Flying Frank 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kernow, Gods own county !! Posts: 2,388	No, no time for the fuel system, too busy removing wings, parts from the engine bay to gain access, and interior trim in footwells to avoid conflagration. Then standing guard inside the car whilst welding taking place to extinguish any possible smouldering bits of stuck on carpet. Plus have been doing wire brushing on front suspension which may be salvageable. Plenty of sweeping up too ! Car will be moved next week to adjoining workshop so may be able to get in under cover and do a bit more engine bay cleaning up, will have to see what the two bosses say. Her indoors , and the owner of the workshop!