so mrs thatcher has moved on

[here2learn]

i agree its unreal but do not question radio 4 they are posh

[here2learn]

well they say affects are not permanent but bmx related head injuries may leave me shouting at pigeons

i am either very clever or remarkable stupid not my words and to be fair i am not bothered i love life

[andydunn2]

Well at least we still have the Falklands...........

[moonwatcher]

Originally Posted by here2learn

from my understanding this is like the problem with the nhs private company's cherry picked our utility services which are now in foreign ownership so profits are leaving the country.

at this time we were becoming a nation of high consumption and the ports are now under foreign owner ship all of what we as a country have been spending since her decade has accrued interest.

The fact that our utility services and ports are in foreign ownership could be down to the people who bought the shares and then SOLD them to make a quick buck.

It's a bit like blaming Londoners/southerners for buying all the nice properties for holiday homes when the fault could lie with the Northern owners selling to the Southerners

[styler]

i like cake..

[here2learn]

Originally Posted by moonwatcher

The fact that our utility services and ports are in foreign ownership could be down to the people who bought the shares and then SOLD them to make a quick buck.

It's a bit like blaming Londoners/southerners for buying all the nice properties for holiday homes when the fault could lie with the Northern owners selling to the Southerners

that is a valid point and hind sight is a beautiful thing, my only question would be could it not have been possible for our state to retain some form of income other the hope that the tax revenue may come in.

i look to the structural integrity within India and their growing economy 50% of any business must have an Indian partner therefore retaining a revenue stream for the nation.

[darreno'd']

Originally Posted by here2learn

that is a valid point and hind sight is a beautiful thing, my only question would be could it not have been possible for our state to retain some form of income other the hope that the tax revenue may come in.

i look to the structural integrity within India and their growing economy 50% of any business must have an Indian partner therefore retaining a revenue stream for the nation.

I did my apprenticeship in nationalised industry, and the idea that it would have ever contributed positively to the income of the nation is laughable, jobs for the boys and jobs for life, six people to do two men's work, will never pay.

[here2learn]

Originally Posted by darreno'd'

I did my apprenticeship in nationalised industry, and the idea that it would have ever contributed positively to the income of the nation is laughable, jobs for the boys and jobs for life, six people to do two men's work, will never pay.

and the idea that it would have ever contributed positively to the income of the nation is laughable,

which idea are you referring to if it is today with people complaining about a streamlined workforce i agree. my point is she failed to retain any form of internal revenue for our country other than tax liability upon a profits and a diminished workforce leading to our current under funded state.

[20vcqdriver]

Originally Posted by Micky

..now everyone is penny pinching .this country is going to the dogs

Says the man whos just bought a dustbin sized turbo

I cannot remember anyone getting everything right but unfortunately she'll be remembered for the big fails rather than the the big wins. She did kind of lose the plot in her last 12 months mind you but to be fair she did stand up to the plonkers in Europe and we need someone with guts like that at the moment for sure...

[darreno'd']

Originally Posted by here2learn

and the idea that it would have ever contributed positively to the income of the nation is laughable,

which idea are you referring to if it is today with people complaining about a streamlined workforce i agree. my point is she failed to retain any form of internal revenue for our country other than tax liability upon a profits and a diminished workforce leading to our current under funded state.

Streamlined workforce is one, but if the largest shareholder to the big old nationals would have been the government, they would never have changed. When we were privatised, each department had two years to make itself pay or be closed. All the "old boys" wanted it to fail as it meant they would have been paid out in full with full pensions and five years money lump sum if they were over fifty. Nice work if you can get it, but it was no good for the hundreds of us in our twenties. Old habits for the nationalised workshy died hard but they couldn't see it. Full privatisation made them pull their socks up.