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Stu 23-08-14 02:45 PM

New engine question (non Audi)
 
Hi all,
If you had an engine built from scratch, and you asked the engine builder for 180bhp spec, and after rolling road tune showed 155bhp, is that expected?

Coxy 23-08-14 02:51 PM

wheels or flywheel??

180 at the flywheel could equate to 155 at the wheels on a rolling road.

Stu 23-08-14 03:05 PM

flywheel, wheels 122bhp.
Engine builer said set ignition @ 30 deg @ 3500rpm,
Rolling road tuner said 30 deg ignition would loose power, so i think it was set at about 25ish, engine builder says that mild and he should have set @ 30 and took it to 7500 rpm, not as he droped off @ 6500 rpm

Coxy 23-08-14 04:12 PM

what engine is it and what's been done to it to get a higher power output?

Stu 23-08-14 04:20 PM

pinto 2.0, Crank reground an balanced. Rebored, injection rods, mshle pistons. Ported head, big valves, HT1e cam. Rods resized, Mahle bearings, & mains big ends and thrusts. Refaced block. New valves springs an followers. New glyco cam bearings.

Coxy 23-08-14 05:13 PM

what does the standard 2.0 pinto make out of the factory?

Stu 23-08-14 05:14 PM

110 bhp

msh 23-08-14 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 360653)
pinto 2.0, Crank reground an balanced. Rebored, injection rods, mshle pistons. Ported head, big valves, HT1e cam. Rods resized, Mahle bearings, & mains big ends and thrusts. Refaced block. New valves springs an followers. New glyco cam bearings.

:D

As long as you're not doing as builder says, you cannot blame him.

Anyway, is it 8v engine? Does it have carb or L-jet? Vacuum ignition?

Stu 23-08-14 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msh (Post 360659)
:D

As long as you're not doing as builder says, you cannot blame him.

Anyway, is it 8v engine? Does it have carb or L-jet? Vacuum ignition?

Not blaming builder, as I know he's good,
8v, twin45's no vacuum.
I think it needs more running in, and more advance on ignition, trouble is finding good rolling tuners

Andy10v 23-08-14 08:17 PM

You will also get large variations from dyno to dyno depending on calibration factors etc.

Did you try the ignition timing the guy the built the engine suggested?

It is actually being tuned on a dyno, or just tested for output? I would have thought you want to keep advancing timing until MBT, then retard a couple of degrees for safety (whilst listening very carefully for knock).


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